Count Time and Prison

Covers everything from mass incarceration and prison life to reparations with the usual LD engaging point of view. Count Time guests Paul Thomas and Demond Gray discuss how the US justice system functions as a bank (commerce), how it functions on a penal sum and continued use of humans as property and assets.

This Oakdale PhD episode will define Count Time

If you haven’t yet, subscribe to the Count Time Weekly Alerts.

Selected quotes and notes from Count Time Podcast  with LD Azobra, Paul Thomas and Demond Gray will define count time and much more.

Good evening. Good evening. Good evening it’s 4:00 PM. Stand up it’s count time, time for every man and woman to stand up and be counted. Welcome to another edition of Count Time podcast. I am brother LD Azobra formerly named Lyman white. Thank you for joining us today.
 
We have two special young men. They were very instrumental in directing, guiding informing. There’s so much they’ve done for me. I ask them to come on, where we can have some dialogue, where we can sit here and share some paths and the future on where things are, where things are going. We might be talking from mass incarceration to reparations. We gonna have a lot going on here today.

I got my dear friend, a very smart brotha, brother Paul Thomas. Welcome today Paul.

PT
Thank you, Mr. LD. Glad to be here.

LD
And I got my other dear friend here. These are young men, much younger than me. I got Demond Grey. Welcome to Count Time Demond.

DG
I’m happy to be here. Mr. LD.

LD
Look forward to a great dialogue this evening and we’re going to have more than just great dialogue. What did we call it back in the day? Because we sitting here doing what?


Chopping it up, chopping up, kicking it like they say, talking about it.

LD
All right. They the one back in the day talking about chopping it up. But these are the young men who truly know what Count Time is all about. Brother Paul, tell them what Count Time is all about. What is count time? How did we get to know about count time?

PT
Well, it depends if you’re talking about being accountable or if you’re talking about federal prison. They both go hand in hand. And when I first heard you use the term count time, I was thinking every woman and man as it relates to moral obligations what you are doing to benefit of all How are you being accountable for your actions then the other side?


Because I experienced the other side. I had a flashback. You say count time from federal prison. So, yeah, that’s just my thoughts on top about the issue. You don’t want to experience the second part of count time as we all did. What is it exactly that you want to know about count time?

LD
Okay, that’s what we are here to share with everybody, we want Demond to tell everybody. What do you know about count time? How are you familiar with the term count time?

DG
Well, unfortunately, like Paul mentioned, I learned about count time from being in prison. And that’s a road that I hope more people do not take. in prison There’s a certain time of the day where each inmate has to be accounted for. When the guards come in and they holler count time, everybody comes out of their cells, they stand in front of their cell block at attention, and they have to stand there at attention until each inmate is counted.

And if the numbers don’t match up, then the guards are gonna go and count again and count again. And you’re gonna have to stand there. If it takes an hour or 2 hours, you’re going to stand until each inmate is accounted for

LD
Got to be right.

DG
The count got to be right. That’s a good. Right.

LD
So we all had an experience with Count time. What happened with this experience is that we was in prison, but also the prison. It had us in. Lock down.

The prism. The prism of light have shined up on us. So we’ve been enlightened with the prisms of light. All the different lights coming through these two young men. Have opened my eyes of understanding to a whole. other level